Bush Users

This beautiful forest grew inconjunction with use not without it  

Ignore Attwell at your peril all you half baked ecosystem experts with the experience and understanding of bookworms and armchair idealists

David Packham, former CSIRO bushfire scientist of over 40 years standing.

Athol Hodgson, former Commissioner of the old Forests Commission and CFA board member.

Professor David Attwell of Melbourne University.

took the time to tell NE landowners this week they were on the right track .

Posted by: journeymanj / 3:02 AM
Thursday, May 06, 2004

Academics too with no vision, but to close things down? Hard work making decisions about something as simple as the environment! ?????

A sydney academic on the world today last week had no answers for Sugar farmers . Get big - they've got bigger . get smarter ( you name it they"ve done it !
Perhaps he didn't say what he really thought- love to hear from you mate! Rob?
I wonder if he listens to the media and thinks sugar farming is unsustainable ,but wasn't really prepared to say so ----pity the truth is now a large casualty of the war !
More on Sustainable systems? Don't let the media and wannabe leaders tell capable people what is and is not sustainable http://www.rachel.org
Unless you know more than they do or know something they don't ? Why not share your wisdom?

Otways weekend . City folks were fascinated at the slide show and bush dance on Saturday Night to see close up, pictures of the old logging townships and tourist sites in the dam’s catchment such as the tunnel between the two branches of the Barwon and the place where the Otwaymills Post office stood . Walkers were treated to a fixed in time view of a huge sawdust pile and blacksmiths shop that had been abandoned 80 years ago at Henrys mill. Most of the participants got closer than they wanted to the highly carnivorous fauna in the form of leeches and black snails. Discussion on the long walk was lively on carbon cycles, seeding, fire, sawdust degradation (nothing grows on them for decades) and the associated matters of soil and water acidity; like how it would increase again if the areas weren’t logged. CD 's available

"For to long, we have had emotional arguments and rhetoric from the green movement promoting firstly, the cessation of logging in the Otways, and now the locking up of the Otways so only bushwalkers can use it. . If the Otways are included in one vast National Park, there will be no access for four wheel drivers, trail bikers, horse riders, dog walkers, shooters, bee keepers, fire wood collectors and campers, as these activities are simply not allowed in National Parks.

People keep touting tourism as the saviour once logging has ceased, but many of those that are currently tourists will have no desire to come to the Otways if they can’t drive or ride or camp as they have in the past. " from geoff